Making Good Use of Suffering – Recorded for On Demand, Online Learning

Making Good Use of Suffering

Intra-Relational AEDP Work with Overwhelming Emotional Experience

with Jerry Lamagna, LCSW

In this on-demand training video, Jerry Lamagna explores the challenges and opportunities of working with clients who struggle with affect regulation. Using video footage of actual sessions spanning a seven month course of treatment, he introduces viewers to AEDP’s moment-to-moment tracking of experience linked to the client’s past, to meaningful relational contact with the therapist and to the felt sense of change itself. In particular, Mr. Lamagna highlights the use of intra-relational techniques that activate affective change processes associated with moments of self-recognition, regulation, understanding and self-compassion.

Recorded during a one day seminar in the San Francisco bay area in February 2015, the five hour, three part course video includes:

1) A 35 minute lecture on AEDP’s four state model of change, pathogenic affect and the use of Intra-relational techniques in working with overwhelming emotions
2) Nearly three hours of annotated, clinical video footage chronicling AEDP work with pathogenic affect, core affect, transformational affect and core state. The video material includes lengthy segments of six sessions with a single client over a seven month course of treatment.
3) Four question and answer segments filmed during the San Francisco seminar
4) A complete set of color powerpoint slides from the seminar
5) A companion paper to be published in an upcoming issue of the journal Transformance that provides more theoretical depth to the ideas presented in the workshop.
6) The potential for earning 6 continuing education credits for $20 through R Cassidy (CEUs awarded upon passing of accompanying test). CE are for Social workers, MFT’s and Psychologists nationally and for social workers in NY and NJ with the exception of CE for MFT’s in Massachusetts and Minnesota and all counselors in Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma and West Virginia] .

Together, the materials provided offer an excellent resource for the study of AEDP’s four state transformational model, Intra-relational AEDP and related therapeutic interventions. This training illustrates AEDP’s potential for rapidly relieving psychological suffering and promoting more optimal mental functioning.

“I have nothing to say except how terrific it is . . . I learned so much from the videos and I think it is inspiring, clear, educational and all around fantastic work.” Hilary Jacobs Hendel, AEDP Certified Supervisor

“I’m already beginning to feel Jerry’s influence on my way of being with patients. Those moments of his sitting with his hands over his heart have helped me relax and just feel and express from that place. That and Jerry’s readiness to give his feelings and words when he senses his patient is in a transformance moment. He was so alert to such moments of self-righting where expansion of their usual self is starting to occur. Jerry comes forward strongly just then to acknowledge and praise them for risking that. I know the above is so basic for him, but giving others an opportunity to witness it at length makes for a powerful impression.”  Dr. Michael Geis, Santa Barbara, CA

“This is a really lovely and moving presentation — clearly illustrative of the work of AEDP. I learned from watching and felt Jerry’s presence with me afterwards as I sat with clients. I give it a big thumbs up!”  Dr. Ron Frederick, AEDP Senior Faculty; Author of “Living like you mean it”


Meet the Presenter

Jerry Lamagna, LCSW

Jerry Lamagna, LCSW is a Sr. Faculty member of AEDP™ Institute and a psychotherapist in private practice in Manhattan and Westfield, New Jersey. His early career focused specifically on treating adult children raised in alcoholic families, where exposure to clinical challenges associated with complex trauma inspired him to pursue training in approaches like psychodrama, EMDR, ego state therapy, trauma/dissociative disorder treatment, IFS and of course, AEDP. In 2004, Jerry, along with Dr. Kari Gleiser developed a modified version of AEDP for the treatment of dissociative disorders. Since then, Jerry has authored three articles on AEDP and its application in treating complex trauma and in 2015 released a three DVD training video of his teaching and live clinical work. In addition to writing, supervising and providing psychotherapy, Jerry teaches AEDP seminars and all AEDP Certification courses: Immersion, Essential Skills, Advanced Skills and Core Training. When courses were taught in person he taught in both North America and Europe.

Requirements, Fees, Registration and Credits

Please note that this same training is available in a 3 DVD set from our online store, for $149; click HERE to purchase the DVD set.

On Demand Trainings are to be viewed on your private computer or smart device. They are intentionally not downloadable; we “stream” them. So, having a high speed Internet connection is important to having a good learning experience.

This training is intended to be viewed only by mental health professionals and students in mental health or related fields. You will be asked to provide evidence of your professional credentials before completing registration and payment.

Fees and Registration (does not include continuing education credits) :

  • $149
  • $129 AEDP Institute Members only, you must be logged in to receive the discounted price.

Continuing Education Credits

Only paid seminar registrants will be eligible to purchase CE credits through R. Cassidy Seminars.

This is a pre-recorded on-demand Distance Learning Video, which is considered a home study course. If you would like to earn 6 CEs for the course a test must be taken after watching the video.

There is a $25 fee associated with taking the test to earn your certificate. Upon completing the video there will be a link to take the test for CE.

Listed below are the continuing education credit(s) currently available* for this recorded On Demand Training. Each local and National professional board has its own specific Rules and Regulations for Continuing Education Credit Approval and Acceptance. Check with your State Regulatory board if you have questions or concerns not clarified by the information provided below. If your profession is not listed, please contact your licensing board to determine your continuing education requirements and check for reciprocal approval. For other credit inquiries not specified below, please contact our CE and Registration Partner, R. Cassidy Seminars Karen Newell,, 866-992-9399 x 105 before the event.

*Individual Board Rules are subject to change

The NYSED has asked its providers to remind New York Licensees that only 12 Home Study contact hours are allowed per license renewal period. The remainder of your required contact hours must be live courses.

Satisfactory Completion
Participants must have paid course fee, submitted signed verification statement, completed evaluation, and completed post-test with passing grade of 75% in order to receive a certificate. Failure to complete and submit these materials will result in forfeiture of credit for the entire course. No exceptions will be made. Partial credit is not available.

NY: R. Cassidy Seminars is recognized by the New York State Education Department’s State Board for Mental Health Practitioners as an approved provider of continuing education for licensed psychoanalysts. #P-0005. (4.75) clock hours.

Social Workers 
CA: The Board of Behavioral Sciences has deferred CE course approvals to APA for its licensees. See those approvals under Psychologists and Social Workers
NY: R. Cassidy Seminars is recognized by the New York State Education Department’s State Board for Social Work as an approved provider (#0006) of continuing education for licensed social workers. This program is approved for 4.75 contact hours self-study.
OH: Provider approved by the Ohio Counselor, Social Worker and Marriage and Family Therapist Board for (4.75) clock hours, #RCST110701

Counselors/Marriage and Family Therapists 
Other States: If your state is not specifically listed, nearly all state Counselor and MFT boards are reciprocal with other state licensing board approvals, such as those listed below. Check with your board to be sure. The Ohio Board includes Counselors and MFTs.
IL: Illinois Dept of Professional Regulation, Approved Continuing Education Sponsor, #168-000141. (4.75) hours.
NY-LMHCs: R. Cassidy Seminars is recognized by the New York State Education Department’s State Board of Mental Health Practitioners as an approved provider of continuing education for licensed mental health counselors. #MHC-0015. (4.75) contact hours.
NY-LMFTs: R. Cassidy Seminars is recognized by the New York State Education Department’s State Board of Mental Health Practitioners as an approved provider of continuing education for licensed marriage and family therapists. #MFT-0011. (4.75) contact hours.
OH: Provider approved by the Ohio Counselor, Social Worker and Marriage and Family Therapist Board for (4.75) clock hours, #RCST110701
TX: Approved CE Sponsor through the Texas State Board of Examiners of Marriage & Family Therapists. (4.75) CE Hours. Provider #151

Creative Arts Therapists
NY: R. Cassidy Seminars is recognized by the New York State Education Department’s State Board of Mental Health Practitioners as an approved provider of continuing education for licensed creative arts therapists. #CAT-0005. (4.75) contact hours

Chemical Dependency Counselors
CA Provider approved by CCAPP; CCAPP Provider #4N-00-434-0220 for (4.75) CEHs. CCAPP is an IC&RC member which has reciprocity with most ICRC member states.
TX: Provider approved by the TCBAP Standards Committee, Provider No. 1749-06, (4.75) hours general and/or (4.75) hours (specific specialization), Expires 3/31/2019.  Complaints about provider or workshop content may be directed to the TCBAP Standards Committee, 1005 Congress Avenue, Ste. 460, Austin, Texas 78701, Fax Number (512) 476-7297..

CA: R. Cassidy Seminars is a provider approved by the Dental Board of California as a registered provider of continuing education. RP# 4874. (4.75) CE Hours. Some state dental boards are reciprocal. Check with your licensing board to be sure.

CA: Provider approved by the CA Board of Registered Nursing, Provider #CeP12224, for (4.75) contact hours. Many state nursing boards are reciprocal with other states. Check with your licensing board to be sure.

TX: R. Cassidy Seminars is an approved provider with the Texas Education Agency CPE# 501456. This course is (4.75) CE Hours.

This course is co-sponsored by R. Cassidy Seminars, P.O. Box 14473, Santa Rosa, CA 95402

Disability Access – If you require ADA accommodations please contact our office 30 days or more before the event. We cannot ensure accommodations without adequate prior notification.

Please Note: Licensing Boards change regulations often and while we attempt to stay abreast of their most recent changes, if you have questions or concerns about this course meeting your specific board’s approval, we recommend you contact your board directly to obtain a ruling.